tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post950410419842176059..comments2024-02-18T12:18:45.788-05:00Comments on Sun and Shield: King James only?Martin LaBarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14629053725732957599noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-37075095435189972612011-08-03T10:21:00.577-04:002011-08-03T10:21:00.577-04:00Wal-Mart (and probably others) is currently sellin...Wal-Mart (and probably others) is currently selling what appears to be a facsimile edition of the real 1611 King James Bible, for about $5, commemorating the 400 anniversary of the publication. The facsimile is complete with what, to us, is difficult to read gothic-style lettering, "ye" for "the," "Sonne" for "Son," and, I'm sure, other changes in spelling and/or wording. In other words, the so-called 1611 version that many individuals and churches use is actually the 1769 version. The facsimile is of the 1611 version.<br /><br />I bought one.Martin LaBarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629053725732957599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-27880301573479258892011-01-02T03:09:20.789-05:002011-01-02T03:09:20.789-05:00Thanks, brian.
Yes, there's a difference betw...Thanks, brian.<br /><br />Yes, there's a difference between paying taxes and a census, at least to us, but perhaps they were closely related in Joseph's time, or perhaps the KJV got it wrong. I'm not sure.<br /><br />I'm not sure what Jesus would think of today's society, or the monarchy. I'm more concerned about what Jesus thinks of <i>me</i>, or I hope I am so concerned.Martin LaBarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629053725732957599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-73459501435663730362011-01-01T07:03:42.687-05:002011-01-01T07:03:42.687-05:00I stumbled across this post given the recent Queen...I stumbled across this post given the recent Queen's speech which focused on the 400th anniversary of KJ 1st and 6th's Bible "interpretation".<br /><br />Today we read how the Archbishop of Canterbury is encouranging people to read, specifically, the King James Version to help them cope.<br /><br />I am not a Bible scholar but noted during the Queen's message that Luke was dwelt upon, both orally and visually. A major change (KJV)seemed to be that Joseph, instead of going to a census enrolling, was going to pay taxes.<br /><br />It is perhaps notable that Scotland is at the heart of this, given King James, freemasonry, our "Western" "democratic society" and the Declaration of Independence (on which America's was based), banking systems, slavery, colony-founding and suchlike. I have book, Royal Edinburgh, which notes that taxes were first imposed en masse on the Scots by James 1st (of Scotland) in 1424. Also, the KJV was initially discussed before the 1604 Hampton Court/Puritan meeting in Scotland, at Burntisland.<br /><br />Without sounding cheeky, have you thought of what Jesus would make of today's society and indeed monarchy ?<br /><br />cheers, brianNewspacemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09882208154995715405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-73338358086112414262009-04-24T03:51:00.000-04:002009-04-24T03:51:00.000-04:00Thanks, ladies. You both made good points.
For an...Thanks, ladies. You both made good points.<br /><br />For anyone who reads this, and doesn't know, Luther was the founder of protestantism, and translated the Bible into the German of his day.<br /><br />I have an NIV study bible myself, and use the ESV on-line, because of the uses it allows, with proper attribution, and because it is a modern language version. My wife prefers the New Living Translation. I occasionally look something up in the KJV or other translations. My pastor sometimes uses the New King James, and sometimes the NIV or the NLT.<br /><br />I haven't seen the NRSV. I used to use the RSV as my main Bible, myself.Martin LaBarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629053725732957599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-17712188608149356432009-04-23T19:30:00.000-04:002009-04-23T19:30:00.000-04:00I agree completely! Martin Luther said (and he did...I agree completely! Martin Luther said (and he did not have a KJV, by the way), "We do not have to inquire of the literal Latin, how we are to speak German ...Rather we must inquire about this of the mother in the home, the children on the street, the common man in the marketplace. <I>We must be guided by their language, the way they speak, and do our translating accordingly.</I> (This is quoted in the forward to my Contemporary English Version Bible. I prefer the NIV for my own study, though.FancyHorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17597963447367752342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-15634168737524404682009-04-23T11:22:00.000-04:002009-04-23T11:22:00.000-04:00The KJV has beautiful language, and I'm glad I was...The KJV has beautiful language, and I'm glad I was brought up on it. I'm reading the NRSV right now, and like its clarity. It's clean--easy to understand.Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13263860830512792429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-45195164861417164102009-04-21T17:04:00.000-04:002009-04-21T17:04:00.000-04:00Thanks, Joy and Grasshopper. I appreciate your com...Thanks, Joy and Grasshopper. I appreciate your comments.<br /><br />Joy, I'm afraid that some people would say exactly that.<br /><br />Grasshopper, God can speak to us through any version, at least through any version in our own language, be it the KJV, the CEV, the NIV, the NLT, or the NCV, to name a few.Martin LaBarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629053725732957599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-85205060326949093842009-04-21T13:53:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:53:00.000-04:00Wow! Great information! I too enjoy memorizing f...Wow! Great information! I too enjoy memorizing from the KJV, but also enjoy the NCV.Grasshopperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17072377316039980159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-13315463357075063962009-04-21T12:11:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:11:00.000-04:00Thanks for the wonderful post with links! I still ...Thanks for the wonderful post with links! I still have the book The King James Only Controversy from college, and your post covers the main points I remember discussing in class. <br /><br />I laughed out loud at your comment about the color of the Bible. Does that mean that the blue Bible I was given when I joined the youth group and the NIV study Bible required for classes at SWU aren't really the inspired word of God?Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09052393907044397588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-78776844424303249832009-04-21T10:51:00.000-04:002009-04-21T10:51:00.000-04:00Thanks, superrustfly. Of course Peter and Paul wou...Thanks, superrustfly. Of course Peter and Paul would find the KJV, or any other English version, incomprehensible.<br /><br />I'm afraid some (I hope) well-meaning souls actually believe that the cover has to be black, too.Martin LaBarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629053725732957599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-90360111255445327082009-04-21T08:59:00.000-04:002009-04-21T08:59:00.000-04:00I actually had someone when I was a freshman in co...I actually had someone when I was a freshman in college say about the King James Version that if it was good enough for Peter and Paul, it's good enough for me. <br />You presented an excellent case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-14963730854971641172009-04-21T07:35:00.000-04:002009-04-21T07:35:00.000-04:00Thanks. Yes, there are people who think Paul wrote...Thanks. Yes, there are people who think Paul wrote KJV.Martin LaBarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629053725732957599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9661811.post-54925200772761457832009-04-21T05:13:00.000-04:002009-04-21T05:13:00.000-04:00You are right about this - - - - as you are usuall...You are right about this - - - - as you are usually right about things.<br /><br />I too prefer to memorize in King James - - - that's what we grew up with and the poetry of its language is easier for me to memorize.<br /><br />HOWEVER - - - I think other translations are easier to understand AND many of them are truer to the Greek and Hebrew and Aramaic. <br /><br />I was on a bus trip once - - - the bus driver, NOT JOKING, said, "If King James was good enough for the Apostle Paul, it is good enough for me." <br /><br />I kid you not - - - he really said that.<br /><br />I hope you, or someone else with a loving kind spirit will help the new Christian in your congregation feel assurance that God is not concerned about which translation he reads and is just longing for him to read.Keetha Broyleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07850398844489825600noreply@blogger.com