I have been posting about an essay by Jerry Coyne, wherein he argues that a person who believes in a God who can work miracles cannot be a good scientist, or that religion and science are basically incompatible. The first post is here, and the second is here.
In this post, I present summaries of three reactions to Coyne's essay. The first two are by Christian authors who have attempted to show that science and Christianity are, indeed compatible. Coyne's essay was a review of their books. Edge gave several authors, including these two, the opportunity to react to Coyne. Most of them agree with him.
Karl Giberson differs, as might be expected. Giberson makes two excellent points. First, he says, science has historical baggage that would be embarrassing, if it was brought up constantly. He doesn't mention them, but I will give a couple of examples -- phlogiston and epicycles. We don't talk about science as if it still used these theories. Why not, then, allow theology the same privilege? Why hold Christianity to a outdated belief in a "tyrannical anthromorphic deity," when such belief has been superseded by almost all Christians?
Second, Giberson says: I wonder what would happen if, in the name of pluralism and diplomacy, we could all agree that it was OK for people to believe that evolution was a part of God's plan.
Kenneth R. Miller's response to Coyne is longer, and, I think, deeper.
Miller begins by disagreeing with Coyne's classification of Miller as a creationist. (See my previous post on how Coyne defines such.) Miller points out that he argued against the Intelligent Design side in the Kitzmiller trial. Miller says that he exhibits only one of the four characteristics by which Coyne identified creationists.
Miller then argues that Coyne has invoked "convergence" when he wants to, but only when he wants to. He also says that, although some alleged miracles -- a world-wide flood being one -- are subject to empirical verification or rejection (He says that one has been rejected) others, such as the incarnation and the resurrection, are not, but that Coyne rejects them anyway, because his position really is that there can't have been, or be, any miracles. As Miller says, that's a faith statement on Coyne's part. So he attacks Coyne's logic, and the soundness of his thinking.
Miller says that science, as practiced, requires methodological naturalism, but that Coyne confuses that with philosophical naturalism, a belief that the physical or natural world is all that exists, which is not a requirement for the practice of science, and which science can neither prove or disprove. (This Wikipedia article contrasts the two, but calls philosophical naturalism ontological, or metaphysical, naturalism.) Methodological naturalism assumes that the supernatural is not going to somehow assert itself when we perform experiments, so as to alter the results.
Miller points out that there are real and important questions, such as why science works, and why there is anything at all, that science cannot answer, and that Coyne shows no interest in, because he believes that scientific knowledge is the only legitimate form of knowledge.
He closes his response by saying that, considering the state of belief in evolution in North American today, Coyne is driving away allies that he needs in the important task of changing the perception of so many that what science has to say about the age of the earth, and the relatedness of organisms, is invalid.
Miller's response is masterful, a splendid antidote to Coyne.
He Lives, a good Christian blogger who is also a scientist, has also reacted. I cannot repeat his arguments here fully without committing plagiarism, but will summarize by saying that the author first considers the definitions of incompatibility, and says, convincingly, in my view, that science and Christianity cannot be shown to be incompatible. In fact, they must not be, since there are some good and important scientists who are Christians, and there always have been.
Then, He Lives considers seven common arguments which claim that science and Christianity are incompatible, and shows that each of them fails.
He has written a short, logical, and insightful response, which, although not exactly considering Coyne's essay (He Lives was aware of it) demolishes its central theme.
Compatibility between science and Christianity is possible. Like any marriage of strong-willed, independent, and unlike entities, making this marriage work has been, and will be, difficult. But, since the Bible and the findings of science are both part of God's revelation to us, we need to work at it. It is unfortunate that Coyne and others are actively trying to stop such activity, and are unwilling to acknowledge that their arguments that it can't be done don't hold up.
Thanks for reading. Read Miller and He Lives.
On a much different note (if you'll excuse the word) Happy Birthday, Handel!
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He closes his response by saying that, considering the state of belief in evolution in North American today, Coyne is driving away allies that he needs in the important task of changing the perception of so many that what science has to say about the age of the earth, and the relatedness of organisms, is invalid.
Does Ken Miller want Coyne to shut up? It sure sounds like that's what he wants.
The most important reason for the disgraceful scientific illiteracy of Americans is the Christian religion, but Ken Miller wants atheists to suck up to that death cult.
I suggest creationism is just a symptom of a disease, and in America the disease is called Christianity. Trying to cure the symptom of a disease, while ignoring the disease, doesn't work.
If Christians are offended by Coyne, Dawkins, PZ Myers, and other scientists who have nothing but disdain for religious insanity, and if that's why they reject modern science, I say to heck with them. They were not likely to accept scientific discoveries anyway.
He also says that, although some alleged miracles -- a world-wide flood being one -- are subject to empirical verification or rejection (He says that one has been rejected) others, such as the incarnation and the resurrection, are not, but that Coyne rejects them anyway, because his position really is that there can't have been, or be, any miracles.
That's also the position of 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences, and I strongly doubt very many of the remaining 7% believe in the disgusting Resurrection nonsense.
A strong knowledge of science isn't required to figure out there's no magic in the universe. A small child could figure that out, as long as he or she wasn't brainwashed by an insane preacher man.
People who are scientifically literate are even less likely to believe in magic (also known as Mr. God). Scientists like Ken Miller and Francis Collins are extremely rare in the 21st century, and I bet there will be virtually zero religious scientists in the 22nd century. Scientific progress continues to grow rapidly, while religious ideas remain forever stuck in the Dark Ages.
bobxxxx,
We are not offended by Coyne, Dawkins, PZ Myers, etc. We are amused by them. Big difference.
Martin,
Thanks for your post!
Thanks to both of you.
bobxxxx, Giberson and Miller don't reject modern science, nor do I, nor David, the other commenter. We reject assertions that science has disproved (or proved) the occurrence of miracles. Some things, such as why science works, and the occurrence of miracles, are outside the realm of science, and claiming that they are not is bad science.
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